Name: Kathy
Reference: John 15:1-8
Quote: Philip page 83 lines 3-25 (our page 149) ...if its root is exposed, the tree dries up...It (the ax) will not merely cut - what is cut sprouts again - but the ax penetrates deeply until it brings up the root. Jesus pulled out the root of the whole place, while others did it only partially...."
Date: Thursday, October 26, 2006
Time: 13:17:54
Though the vine referred to in John's text is that which will bear fruit, and the vine in Phillip's text has its roots in evil, both are most correctly and fully pruned only by God the Father (John) or God the Son (Philip).
Name: Eric G
Reference: John 20:21-22
Quote: 4.1-2: "Peace be with you" he said. "Aquire my peace within yourselves"
Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Time: 23:19:28
This first part of this phrase is the same as in John. In John, however, Jesus says, "Receive the Holy Spirit" and breaths on them. Different wording, but same idea...
Name: Pam
Reference: Luke 1:35
Quote: [55] ... Some said, "Mary conceived by the Holy Spirit." They are in error.They do not know what they are saying. When did a woman ever conceive by a woman?
Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Time: 23:05:00
This passage emphatically denies Luke's account of the virgin birth, claiming that the Holy Spirit is feminine (ruach/pneuma) and therefore could not possibly be responsible for Mary's pregnancy.
Name: Pam
Reference: Matthew 8:21 -- 22
Quote: [52] ... Those who are heirs to the dead are themselves dead, and they inherit the dead.
Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Time: 23:00:04
As in the passage in Matthew ("leave the dead to bury their own dead"), this suggests that the dead are the concerns of the dead, and not to be addressed by the living.
Name: Sue B
Reference: Romans 7:15 I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate.
Quote: Gospel of Philip (II, 3, 83) Referencing evil...It takes us captive, to make us do what we do [not] want; and what we do want we do [not] do,
Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Time: 21:22:47
The passage from the Gospel of Philip speaks of the evil root of wickedness taking root within our hearts and taking us captive. This is the same line of thought Paul speaks about in Romans Chapter 7 when he speaks of the sin that dwells within and that we become captive to the law of sin that dwells within us.
Name: Dave B
Reference: Mt. 7:6, 13:46
Quote: Pg 137 (62) When the pearl is cast down into the mud it does not become greatly despised.
Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Time: 21:14:14
The dirty (or anointed) pearl and the pearl of great price and the pearl cast before swine could easily be the same pearl.
Name: Steve
Reference: Matthew 3:16-17 "When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
Quote: (From Gospel of Phillip) "Jesus revealed himself at the Jordan River as the fullness of heaven's kingdom."
Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Time: 20:40:24
Lot of commonality here; although it appears that in the Matthew passage it is the "God-part" of the trinity that reveals the divine identity of Jesus, yet the Gospel of Phillip passage seems to indicate that it is the "Son-part" of the trinity that reveals his identity.
Name: Judy
Reference: Lk22:19 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them saying, "This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in rememberance of me.
Quote: page 133 but when Christ came, the perfect man, he brought bread from heaven in order that man mightbe nourished with the food of man.
Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Time: 19:46:47
Christ brought bread to nourish man and left bread to nourish man spiritually in rememberance of him.
Name: Judy
Reference: Lk 22:19 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to them saying, "This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in rememberance of me.
Quote: page 133 ...but when Christ came, the perfect man, he brought bread from heaven in order that man might be nourished with the food of man.
Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Time: 19:27:10
Christ brought bread as food to nourish man and he left bread to continue to nourish man spiritually in rememberance of him.
Name: David G
Reference: Matt 22:13, Luke 16: 23-24
Quote: An apostolic man in a vision saw some people shut up in a house of fire bound with fiery chains in flaming ointment. ... And he said to them "Why are they not able to be saved?" They answered "They did not desire it. They received this place as punishment, what is called 'the outer darkness' because he is thrown out into it." Gospel of Philip p140
Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Time: 11:11:05
In Matthew the punishment for the man who was without a wedding robe at the wedding banquet was to 'Bind him hand and foot, and throw him into the outer darkness...'. In the Gospel of Philip the punishment for those who do not desire to be saved is similar with the addition of a house of fire, firey chains and flaming ointment. This 'fiery' part reminded me of the story in Luke of the rich man being tormented in Hades who was 'in agony in these flames'.
Name: Ann Y.
Reference: Matthew 6:19
Quote: "...because they do not put their treasure in things below which are despised but in the glories which are above, through they did yet not know them."
Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Time: 10:08:19
These two comments seem alike and are saying do not worry about earthly things. In the Gospel of Philip I think that he is saying earthly things are matter and vile and there are glories in heaven which noone can know while on earth. Matthew is saying do not worry and pile up a lot of earthly things because possessions cloud your judgment. God knows what you need and He will provide it for you.
Name: Gary
Reference: Luke 12.41,49-50 and Matt. 3.11-12
Quote: Gospel of Philip p.35 "Jesus took them all by stealth..." and p.140 "It is from water and fire..."
Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Time: 09:27:22
Peter's words in the Gospel of Luke questioning if Jesus is telling parables for just them or for everyone parallels a recurring theme of special knowledge in the Gospel of Philip. The idea of "fire" and baptism also is a recurring theme, which follows along in Luke 12.49-50. But it is in Matthew 3.11-12, where John the Baptist speaks about Jesus that this theme of fire and baptism parallels the Gospel of Philip, especially when the narrative on page 140 of the Gospel of Philip has the nuance of an initiation rite.
Name: Deb
Reference: John 11:25 &26: 25 "Jesus said to her, 'I am the resurrection and the life. those who believe in me, even though they die, will live, 26 and everyone who lives and believes in me
will never die.
Quote: "The dead are heirs to nothing. For how can he who is dead inherit? If he who is dead inherits what is living he will not die, but he who is dead will live even more" (pg. 132?)
Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Time: 09:12:48
This passage in Philip jumped out at me and immediately reminded me of Jesus' words in John, which he spoke after he raised Lazarus from the dead. Philip's author goes on to talk about the fact that Gentiles never had life and were dead to begin with but through Christ, by believing "in the truth," they can become alive.
Name: Michael Kasevich
Reference: John 6:32-34 32Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world." 34"Sir," they said, "from now on give us this bread."
Quote: Page 133 last paragraph: Before Christ came there was no bread in the world, just as paradise, the place where Adam was, had many trees to nourish the animals, but no wheat to sustain man. Man used to feed like the animals but when Christ came, the perfect man, he brought bread from heaven in order that man might be nourished with food of man.
Date: Tuesday, October 24, 2006
Time: 11:58:50
These selected verses coincide with the bread of heaven. The life giving meal that only God can provide for humankind. Animals do not eat bread, only humankind eats bread. This separates us from the rest of God's kingdom. In both writings, this is stated well
Name: CBS
Reference: Job, the Book
Quote: left to herself, was free to lament her own lot. Chariton 2
Date: Tuesday, October 24, 2006
Time: 11:53:01
Although it is a diffeerent type of lamenting sometimes we must find ourselves truly alone to feel the closness of lamenting, no matter what the reason is for.
Name: CBS
Reference: Ephesians 4: 1-6
Quote: "The Lord went into the dye works of Levi. He took them out all white. And he said, " Even so hes the Son of Man come as dyer."
Date: Tuesday, October 24, 2006
Time: 08:15:27
Here to me is a miracle where Jesus shows the people that his disciples were once "multi colored" (or not unified in their role with God) but if they truly follow my teachings they will all come out as one with God. (In our reading it refers the colors all coming out as white) The colors are nothing more than a metaphor to be used. Jesus was sent to have us ALL become one with God, within ourselves according to Philip.
Name: Kathy
Reference: Jude1:12 and 2 Tim 4:7
Quote: Page 32, last paragraph: "The ship put to sea and ran splendidly, since they were not struggling against sea and wind - they had no special course to follow; to their mind any wind was favorable...."
Date: Friday, October 20, 2006
Time: 23:10:37
My thought here was that these brigands had no special course to follow, like those who are swayed, tossed to-and-fro by the wind, not caring in what direction they sailed, but in as in this passage from Jude, "Woe to them!...these are blemishes on your love-feasts...they are waterless clouds carried along by the winds...wandering stars, for whom the deepest darkness has been reserved." They were not struggling against sea and wind, trying to keep to a course - "staying the course"